Ex Dell President: The Day Steve Jobs Tried To Kill My Company! Now I'm Building A $200M+ Health Empire | Joel Kocher

What does it take to grow a company from $100 million to a multi-billion dollar Fortune 500? I sat down with former Dell president Joel Kocher, who went to war with Steve Jobs and later co-founded HumanN, a health company on the Inc. 5000 list ten years in a row.

Joel tells the story of the day Jobs shut down his Mac clone maker Power Computing, the paid protesters and Macworld ban that followed, and the call years later when Jobs admitted he was wrong. We get into why an ace at $300 million fails at $3 billion, why he can't stand exit strategy talk, and why he told Walmart no for seven years.

At almost 70, Joel says his arteries test in their 40s. He explains why he credits nitric oxide, why heart health is everybody's health, and why your career should look like monkey bars, not a ladder.